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Sykoholic	Available?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 3127 Oct 1 05 3:48 PM Not of this World Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Is this out already? Kenzer has it listed as "In Transit" but Noble Knight has it listed as being available. ________________________________ Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.
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Carla Harker	I'll try to find out.	#1	[-]
Posts: 37 Oct 5 05 6:39 AM Necromantic Writer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The Kenzer & Co. Online store also shows it available. I'll email Bill and see, in case he doesn't see this thread right away.
Carla Harker	Oct. 6	#2	[-]
Posts: 37 Oct 5 05 9:55 AM Necromantic Writer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Official release date is October 6.
nstr	Re: Available?	#3	[-]
Posts: 176 Oct 5 05 12:51 PM Ghast Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Received mine today. It looks nice. I like the magazine like paper that it has better than the thick paper Troll Lord was using.
Carla Harker	Ooh.	#4	[-]
Posts: 37 Oct 5 05 12:55 PM Necromantic Writer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I can't wait until I get my copies. Thank you for your purchase, nstr. I hope you enjoy it.
Michael Proteau	Re: Ooh.	#5	[-]
Posts: 3989 Oct 5 05 1:42 PM Necro PIMP! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My FLGS called to say the copy I ordered was in this afternoon. It will be abit before I get down there, but I will pick it up my next trip down. -M Michael Proteau Founder/Director Alexandria Project Springfield, OH alexandriaproj@hotmail.com "To live is to learn!" "Life is an adventure, fear and worry only ruin it.!" "Follow your bliss!" -Joseph Campbell
Sykoholic	Re: Ooh.	#6	[-]
Posts: 3127 Oct 5 05 7:48 PM Not of this World Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ordered mine from Noble Knight. It should be here within the next day or so. ________________________________ Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.
Dee	Re: Ooh.	#7	[-]
Posts: 182 Oct 6 05 9:15 AM Ghast Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Got it yesterday. First Impressions: I do NOT like the paper stock. On alot of the pages I can see the text from the opposite side bleeding through. I can live with the thinner cover stock I guess, although it is very flimsy. If I closed my eyes and were given a magazine in one hand and this in the other I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. To Carla: Piratey/seabourne adventures aren't prolific enough in the market, so this is a welcome addition. I see Dead Man's Chest being very useful for this. Attack of the toy soldiers... funny. When I run that, I think I'll expand that into a full army just for laughs. Looks to be a solid adventure. Thanks.
kenmckinney	Re: Ooh.	#8	[-]
Posts: 3010 Oct 7 05 8:48 AM Necromancer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	When I read the blurb for this, it reminded me of Tegel Manor. Is it similar? Ken
Carla Harker	Tegal Manor	#9	[-]
Posts: 37 Oct 7 05 9:42 AM Necromantic Writer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've never read Tegal Manor, but based on the blurb on DriveThruRPG.com, there's not much similarity. It looks like a fun adventure, though. I think Dead Man's Chest and WotC's Stormwrack would both work well with A Family Affair. DMC is in my Amazon wishlist, so I haven't been able to check it out yet, but it seems to be a little meatier than what I've read of Stormwrack (which, admittedly, I've only skimmed).
Sykoholic	Re: Ooh.	#10	[-]
Posts: 3127 Oct 7 05 8:33 PM Not of this World Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Got mine yesterday! I have to agree with Dee, I don't like the paper or the flimsy cover. The comparison to a magazine is extremely accurate. I got a copy of K&C's "Perils of Pekal" recently and it's the same way which leads me to believe all the K&C releases are going to be like this. One question: Why are the rumors concerning Elion's death indicated as being "true" or "false"? The PCs should already know the truth. ________________________________ Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.
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tacojohn4547	Availability of A Family Affair	#11	[-]
Posts: 524 Oct 8 05 5:25 AM Ghast Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I also just ordered mine from Noble Knight. It should be here within the next day or so. FWIW - Noble Knight sold out of their first lot of A Family Afair in just a couple of days and had to reorder. Mine is coming from their second batch. tacojohn4547
Tsathogga	Re: Availability of A Family Affair	#12	[-]
Posts: 2491 Oct 8 05 9:58 AM Demon Lord Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Excellent...get the word out.
Carla Harker	Elion rumors	#13	[-]
Posts: 37 Oct 8 05 11:39 AM Necromantic Writer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You're right, Sykoholic. I think I did it more for consistency's sake, since some of the rumors did need some sort of indicator whether they're true or false (not that a GM couldn't change the story!)
Death Tribble	Re: Elion rumors	#14	[-]
Posts: 9003 Oct 10 05 4:07 AM Terror from the Abyss Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I got it last week. I don't like the paper stock either. The normal stuff might have lead to a decrease in the price. But otherwise so far so good. Needs a detailed read first from the Tribbulous one. I think you're pretty tough don't I
nstr	paper	#15	[-]
Posts: 176 Oct 10 05 11:50 AM Ghast Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dee, Skyoholic, Death Tribble - Just curious, why do you not like the paper stock. The only thing that I can think is that you believe it will not hold up during use. For me it is much easier to deal with the flimsy pages during use then the thick, hard to bend, pages of previous books. With the magazine like paper it is easy for the book to be open to the right page all the time instead of it closing on you or the pages turning by themselves.
Dee	Re: paper	#16	[-]
Posts: 182 Oct 10 05 12:41 PM Ghast Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If the book were stood upright (spine on left in vertical position), there are 3 different breaks in the spine of the book horizontally that are already starting to fray/rip/peel back and enlarge where it was broken during shipping. Just from my brief reading of it they are now lengthwise, long enough to reach the interior cover illustration. As for pages, I covered a main point already (bleedthrough). I don't imagine these will hold up well during gameplay without the inevitable rip(s) in the thin pages. Magazine style printing is fine if that's what's needed, but the price of such is not equal to presentation. I can't think of too many $20 magazines I would purchase, but then maybe I've been spoiled by the long-standing format modules have been presented in for decades. If this is the only format that these can be offered in, then I have no choice but to accept if I want them. I don't have to like the format however. If an honest critique of the format is improper then so be it.
Sykoholic	Re: paper	#17	[-]
Posts: 3127 Oct 10 05 6:59 PM Not of this World Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The cover of my copy is already starting to show wear. As for the pages, the gloss causes glare. I find myself constantly tilting the book in order to read it. ________________________________ Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.
Arnwyn	Re: paper	#18	[-]
Posts: 1779 Oct 14 05 12:05 PM Necromancer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I hate the paper as well, for the reasons others listed above. I like everything else, though. The maps (and I'm a stickler for maps) are great, and is one of my main gauges as to the quality of a module... and I'm impressed. Further, anything seafaring gets a big thumbs-up from me, so I'm happy there, too. And a great cover for a rather blandly-named adventure. Whodathunk?
Michael Proteau	Re: paper	#19	[-]
Posts: 3989 Oct 14 05 8:56 PM Necro PIMP! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I picked up my copy this afternoon, and I have only had a chance to flip through it briefly. I see what people are talking about in regards to paper stock-I don't hate it, but it wouldn't be my first choice. However, I do know that lower print runs means higher per unit costs for production, so if that is what is needed to keep the retail price reasonable, so be it. Overall from what I saw in my quick thumb through this looks good, but I doubt I will get the chance to really dig into reading this for a week or so, so it may be a bot before I post any impressions. -M Michael Proteau Founder/Director Alexandria Project Springfield, OH alexandriaproj@hotmail.com "To live is to learn!" "Life is an adventure, fear and worry only ruin it.!" "Follow your bliss!" -Joseph Campbell
Sykoholic	Re: paper	#20	[-]
Posts: 3127 Oct 15 05 8:28 AM Not of this World Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* lower print runs means higher per unit costs for production Can you elaborate on that? Shouldn't something cost the same per unit, regardless of how many are produced per run? Do the printers give a discount for larger runs or something. ________________________________ Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.
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