Just a guess.
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Dark Mistress |
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Plus their is legal as in what you can get away with and then legal as in the spirit of the law. If I had to guess and this is just a wild guess. i think for
Clark it might be this. The OSRIC is following the letter of the law while stomping on the spirit of the law. Since to be fair the OGL was designed for people
to support DnD 3e not previous ones. So while it might be legal, it also might be going against the spirit of the law.
Just a guess. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin For MSG - I am sure you can teach a monkey to scratch his butt, just tell him to watch you. After a couple of hours he should be a master at it. |
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Dark Mistress wrote: Still, like Ravyn points out, OSRIC is built around the language of 3E to emulate 1E. Which is why I have always disagreed with Clarks assessment, but I am not a lawyer. Then again, Clark is not a copyright lawyer. |
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TheRavyn |
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Dark Mistress wrote:This is why I think Paizo would be a bigger target than OSRIC. If the spirit (or say rather intended marketing advantage) of the OGL is to let third party publishers create products that will drive sales of 3.5 Core Rulebooks, then Pathfinder RPG is the complete antithesis of this. Unlike OSRIC which caters to a small portion of the small niche of old-school gamers, PF is in direct competition with WotC, both as a replacement for 3.5 and alternative to 4.0. I still feel its a moot point for all concerned, as WotC is no longer selling 3.5, and any OGL violations pursued would likely be solely in regards to IP infractions, which the retro-clone authors have religiously avoided.
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hmm. [libertarian] Down with overextended copyright and patent law![/libertarian]
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Dark Mistress |
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Yeah Ravyn I agree PF is a bigger threat but my only point was i am not sure if their is anything legally WotC can do about any of them. Unless they make a
mistake of course.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin For MSG - I am sure you can teach a monkey to scratch his butt, just tell him to watch you. After a couple of hours he should be a master at it. |
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Elton Robb |
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Well, like I said, I wish some stringent limitations would be put on Copyright. For companies like WotC, I'm advocating the run of the publication + 7
months. So, 3E would be public domain by now, since WotC refuses to publish it.
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Treebore |
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Elton Robb wrote:Yeah, it would be nice if they would put clear limitations on that. Copyright lasts over a 100 years now, but if they don't publish it for 90 out of those 100 years they could go after you. However thats one of the wierd things, to go after someone for copyright infringement you have to prove they also cost you loss of revenue, so if you haven't been publishing something for 25 years, and then someone else does, can you successfully go after them since you haven't been making any money off of it for the last 16 years or so? So it would be nice if they put a condition of copyright in there, such as it can last a maximum of 100 years, but if it goess unpublished for more than 3, 5, 10 years copyrights are forfeited. Published should also be defined as 100 copies sold. So no one gets copyright protection until/unless they successfully sell 100 copies of their work. Or, they have 2 years from the time their work is created to get it published before someone else can then publish it. Something like that, that keeps big companies from being able to steal ideas from "little guys", but doesn't give someone control of something they are doing nothing with essentially forever. |
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DestyNova1 |
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Friend of mine who has looked through the Pazio rules has talked about how weird the rules can be. Barbarian get rage points, and they can spend them to get
things like flaming teeth! Quite the change from things like extra STR in 3.5 and the 'I get even scarier/tougher' in Iron Heroes.
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DaveMage |
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We've been told that rage points are not in the final version of the rules.
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