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DaveMage		#21	[-]
Posts: 2161 (03/24/09 18:15:35) Wilderlands Pathfinder Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Lots of new product, but few companies (only 8 in fact)... Green Ronin is only doing the 1 product, which leaves only 4 other companies currently making print 4E products (not including tokens). Ouch! (Although I know Fiery Dragon is making stuff too, which wasn't listed in the link.) Product count by company is: Green Ronin: 1 Goodman Games: 22 Expeditious Retreat: 7 Mongoose: 9 Wizards of the Coast: 74 Litko Aerosystems (tokens only): 6 Dragonfire Lasercrafts (tokens/templates): 40 Code Monkey Publishing: 1
Dark Mistress		#22	[-]
Posts: 1781 (03/24/09 18:41:36) Dominatrix Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You know regardless what you think of 4e it is a shame to see the 3pp support all but be gone. Kinda doubt we ever see that kind of support for another game system again. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin For MSG - I am sure you can teach a monkey to scratch his butt, just tell him to watch you. After a couple of hours he should be a master at it.
mtbdm		#23	[-]
Posts: 5034 (03/25/09 10:12:13) Bastard Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Until "D&D 5e: Back to Old School" MtbDM Q: MtbDM, what is good in life? A: To crush the PCs, see their character sheets pile before you, and hear the lamentation of their players.
Snoring Rock		#24	[-]
Posts: 997 (03/25/09 14:28:29) Eternally Unspanked Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	mtbdm wrote: Until "D&D 5e: Back to Old School" So true..... ......but sreiously, I think this is the end really. The demographics of the resurgence (3.5) was old school. 4e is something almost MMORPG. Its like a primer. I will say there will be no 5e. So, I will have to play Pathfinder or 3.5. The game is still alive. It lives in us. Its the DM's imaginning worlds and players breathing life into their characters. Let the corporates do what they do. My basement still has a battle mat, pizza, Pepsi and friends....regardless of revision. Last Edited By: Snoring Rock 03/26/09 04:15:11. Edited 2 times.
DaveMage		#25	[-]
Posts: 2163 (03/25/09 15:22:00) Wilderlands Pathfinder Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think there could very well be a 5E, but the delivery model would likely need to change. But it's OK - I have a plan as soon as I hit Powerball....
Dark Mistress		#26	[-]
Posts: 1782 (03/25/09 16:17:46) Dominatrix Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	DaveMage wrote: I think there could very well be a 5E, but the delivery model would likely need to change. But it's OK - I have a plan as soon as I hit Powerball.... To get that sex change? Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin For MSG - I am sure you can teach a monkey to scratch his butt, just tell him to watch you. After a couple of hours he should be a master at it.
Treebore		#27	[-]
Posts: 7883 (03/25/09 17:23:11) Scribe of the Unending Word Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	XRP has announced Freeport 4E for November.
DaveMage		#28	[-]
Posts: 2165 (03/25/09 17:25:52) Wilderlands Pathfinder Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Dark Mistress wrote: DaveMage wrote: I think there could very well be a 5E, but the delivery model would likely need to change. But it's OK - I have a plan as soon as I hit Powerball.... To get that sex change? Then I could use the Character Builder to make my avatar.....
Snoring Rock		#29	[-]
Posts: 998 (03/26/09 04:16:19) Eternally Unspanked Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hehe.....4e was a sex change for D&D.....I could not help myself...so sorry.
LibertonPC		#30	[-]
Posts: 5389 (03/26/09 05:05:38) Demonic Debator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Firstly, who knew Warhammer RPG was doing so well again!? I did actually. There's a lot more people playing the system. *Psychos? Did they look like psychos to you? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't care how &$#ing crazy they are.**
DaveMage		#31	[-]
Posts: 2166 (03/26/09 05:48:58) Wilderlands Pathfinder Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	LibertonPC wrote: Firstly, who knew Warhammer RPG was doing so well again!? I did actually. There's a lot more people playing the system. More than D&D, though?
aberzanzorax		#32	[-]
Posts: 24 (03/26/09 10:18:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Snoring Rock wrote: So true..... ......but sreiously, I think this is the end really. The demographics of the resurgence (3.5) was old school. 4e is something almost MMORPG. Its like a primer. I will say there will be no 5e. So, I will have to play Pathfinder or 3.5. The game is still alive. It lives in us. Its the DM's imaginning worlds and players breathing life into their characters. Let the corporates do what they do. My basement still has a battle mat, pizza, Pepsi and friends....regardless of revision. You keep your friends in your basement?
Dark Mistress		#33	[-]
Posts: 1783 (03/26/09 11:34:08) Dominatrix Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I keep a lot of stuff in my basement... but I am smart enough not to talk about it. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin For MSG - I am sure you can teach a monkey to scratch his butt, just tell him to watch you. After a couple of hours he should be a master at it.
TheRavyn		#34	[-]
Posts: 1990 (03/26/09 14:11:34) Vampire Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Dark Mistress wrote: I keep a lot of stuff in my basement... but I am smart enough not to talk about it. That's ok, just email me pictures. Beyond the Black Gate - The Ravyn blogs old-school gaming! Check out the New Microlite20! 4E Combat a Drag? Try Brutal 4E! Go Deep! Classic MegaDungeon for 4E under construction... Join the O.A.F - Old School 4E Needs You!
Deepcut		#35	[-]
Posts: 5014 (03/26/09 17:43:44) Pimp of the Planes Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	lol "...In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "
Snoring Rock		#36	[-]
Posts: 999 (03/27/09 06:08:11) Eternally Unspanked Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	aberzanzorax wrote: Snoring Rock wrote: So true..... ......but sreiously, I think this is the end really. The demographics of the resurgence (3.5) was old school. 4e is something almost MMORPG. Its like a primer. I will say there will be no 5e. So, I will have to play Pathfinder or 3.5. The game is still alive. It lives in us. Its the DM's imaginning worlds and players breathing life into their characters. Let the corporates do what they do. My basement still has a battle mat, pizza, Pepsi and friends....regardless of revision. You keep your friends in your basement? Oh yes, it is so much easier to get the group together for a game that way. My basement does not compare to DM's however.
Snoring Rock		#37	[-]
Posts: 1000 (03/27/09 06:09:28) Eternally Unspanked Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	DaveMage wrote: LibertonPC wrote: Firstly, who knew Warhammer RPG was doing so well again!? I did actually. There's a lot more people playing the system. More than D&D, though? I doubt that, but there are more people playing it than just a year ago. I mean, I certainly hear more about it than I used to. For someone who really likes the wargame part of it, that is the way to go. We cant be sure unless whe check with the Amazon....hey DM?
mtbdm		#38	[-]
Posts: 5037 (03/27/09 06:18:14) Bastard Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Any of you guys playing a retro-clone like "Labyrinth Lord"? I'm pretty tempted to go that route. I miss the days when D&D was not sitting amidst a pile of reference books looking up obscure rules, but was still written for people who've completed college. MtbDM Q: MtbDM, what is good in life? A: To crush the PCs, see their character sheets pile before you, and hear the lamentation of their players.
Mithriltooth		#39	[-]
Posts: 566 (03/27/09 07:09:17) Spectre Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	DrWaites wrote: My experience is that all editions of D&D are dead, along with all other tabletop RPGs. The economy and video games seem to have killed the entire hobby gaming industry in my area. A decade ago we had groups that were bursting at the seems with players. Nowadays, we can't even bribe people to come to our games. Doc Not too sure about dead but as we get older, tabletop players seem to get more scarce. My best bud moved to the west coast last sept (we also used to play at his place), and since then we havent been able to keep a steady gaming schedule. With a ton of regret, I cancelled my Paizo subscriptions the other day. Looks like my tabletop days are over (after 29 years or so) as I cant seem to get a steady group together for some gaming goodness. Im still bummed about it. ______________________________________________________ Current NG stuff owned... CoF, ToA, MM, VoLK, HotRM, tGC, DaD, VaL, LCoB, TaD, SoDF, FotWK, CoS, DoL a.k.a. Sunderstone
DaveMage		#40	[-]
Posts: 2168 (03/27/09 07:20:28) Wilderlands Pathfinder Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Mithriltooth wrote: With a ton of regret, I cancelled my Paizo subscriptions the other day. Looks like my tabletop days are over (after 29 years or so) as I cant seem to get a steady group together for some gaming goodness. Im still bummed about it. That's why I had kids. It was getting tougher and tougher to get my group together, so I made my own.

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