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TargetBoy		#41	[-]
Posts: 203 May 20 09 4:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Crud, that means I'm overspent by 129 gp. Well, I'll drop 1 each tanglefoot, thunderstone, alchemist's fire, and the holy water. Still 4 short. Well, the hat is non-negotiable, so I'll have to dump 80 arrows. That leaves me with only 106 arrows - hope it's enough! Hy vants a sammich!
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TargetBoy		#42	[-]
Posts: 203 Jul 9 09 4:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ken, you'd once mentioned substituting an additional feat for Ranger 4 instead of an animal companion. Is that still applicable? If so, I'm seriously considering Ranger 4 rather than Fighter 3 (my original plan) in order to get the skills for Order of the Bow Initiate one level sooner - with the added bonus that I can take Manyshot (which is lame) and Improved Rapid Shot (from Complete Warrior, which requires Manyshot) which would give me 3 shots per turn with no extra penalty if I use Full Attack. (Obviously one of those is the generic 6th level feat.) It would also give me one paltry 1st-level Ranger spell per day, which is not much of an incentive. But I suppose Animal Messenger or Entangle could theoretically be useful. Obviously Lavinia's dogs have been helpful in the last few sessions. But they die, and why lose your own NPC when you can lose someone else's instead? And if I don't take a bunch of Ranger levels, they never get any better, and I plan on everything after OBI 2 to be Fighter levels. If I take Ftr3, then it's two more levels to meet OBI prerequisites instead of one, but more hit points. So many feats, so little time! And then my master flew to the moon in a rocket of flamin' cheese! I like cheese!
kenmckinney		#43	[-]
Posts: 3010 Jul 10 09 6:30 AM Necromancer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yes, you can have a bonus feat instead of the animal companion. Ken
TargetBoy	Tentative 6th lvl adds	#44	[-]
Posts: 203 Sep 15 09 5:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Take Ranger 4 at 6th level (Rgr 4 / Ftr 2) +7 HP for 47 total 6th lvl free feat = Manyshot (it stinks, but lets me get. . .) feat instead of animal companion = Improved Rapid Shot (ignore -2 penalty on Rapid Shot) 8 skill points = 4 Craft:Bowyer, 2 Knowledge:Religion (cross-class), 1 Handle Animal, 1 Knowledge:Nature +1 Fort save, +1 Ref save +1 BAB, giving the dreaded +6/+1 total (extra attacks! yay!) I think that's it. I'll update the first post once I get confirmation. mas "Alvays remember: any plan where you lose you hat iz a BAD PLAN."
Damien the Bloodfeaster		#45	[-]
Posts: 12033 Sep 15 09 7:52 PM Vampire Scion Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Archery rangers on hitting Ranger 6 get Manyshot anyway. Are you planning on advancing in Ranger that far? If so, you might think carefully about taking it now, since there's nothing in the rules that say you can substitute another feat if you already have Manyshot. (Unless the DM rules otherwise, of course.) If you're not going to continue as a ranger, then of course you should go for it! As an alternative, if Ken allows them, there's Coordinated Shot (which allows you to ignore your allies when determining whether an enemy has cover from your ranged attacks) and Sharp-Shooting (which reduces cover penalties to your ranged attacks by half). Both are ultimately superceded by Improved Precise Shot, but you need BAB +11 and a 19 Dex for that, so you probably won't qualify for it until fairly near the end of the campaign (i.e., when you hit 12th level, assuming you sink all attribute enhancements into Dex). Author: Mother of all Encounter Tables, Bits of Magicka 1-3 Coauthor: Rappan Athuk Reloaded Bits of Magicka: Pocket Items - 2008 ENnies Honorable Mention
kenmckinney		#46	[-]
Posts: 3010 Sep 15 09 8:07 PM Necromancer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'll allow Blodwyn to take another archery related feat at Rgr6 if he already has Manyshot. BTW, if we manage to finish this campaign, you guys will be 21st level or so. 12th is hardly near the end. Ken
TargetBoy		#47	[-]
Posts: 203 Sep 16 09 5:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I wasn't planning on taking any more Ranger levels after this. Two (probably) of Order of the Bow Initiate, and then Fighter all the way out. Subject to change, of course. Hy vants a sammich!
TargetBoy		#48	[-]
Posts: 203 Jan 13 10 7:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Level 7 Order of the Bow Initiate 1 +2 Reflex & Will saves +1 BAB 1d8 (5+2) HP - total 54 Ranged Precision +1d8 (extra precision damage on single attack within 30ft; standard action) 4 skill points - 2 Spot, 1 Swim, 1 Climb used CSW potion gained +1 animated heavy large steel shield I got the bonuses buggered up on the top post somehow - the current numbers are correct. Or they match the Excel spreadsheet that I have, anyway. "It'll take more than being tied to a lit keg of explosives and tossed into a pit of acid filled with mutant, acid-resistant flying piranhas equipped with flame-throwers and battle axes while venomous, mechanical, missile-launching morris dancers armed with liquid nitrogen harpoon guns riding giant rabid killer bees with side-mounted death rays to kill Othar Tryggvassen!" Last Edited By: TargetBoy Jan 19 10 4:57 PM. Edited 2 times.
TargetBoy		#49	[-]
Posts: 203 Apr 2 10 7:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Level 8 Order of the Bow Initiate 2 +1 Reflex & Will saves +1 BAB 1d8 (5+2) HP = 61 Close Combat Shot (shooting doesn't provoke AoO) 4 skill points - 2 Balance (cross-class), 1 Spot, 1 Swim Hy vants a sammich!
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TargetBoy		#50	[-]
Posts: 203 Jun 12 10 4:14 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Updated; assuming the WIS loss has been restored. Until it is, WIS is 10 instead of 12 and the following are decreased by 1: Will Save Listen Spot Survival (and Track) Correct HP is 60/61. I had a tanglefoot bag but gave it to Alda. Note that token macros have not been updated. Typical combat actions - use bow with 3 shots/round (using RapidShot) right up in people's faces. (4/rd if Hasted.) Against the monkeys, it doesn't really do enough damage to get through DR, so the glaive might be a better choice even thought I get only two attacks. Adding Bull's Strength would help increase damage. Enlarge Person doesn't seem to be a net bonus - I already have reach with the glaive, and the bonuses/penalties seem to cancel out. Also note that armor penalties for the shield are not included, since it's animated and (I assume) it drives itself without any help from me. And then my master flew to the moon in a rocket of flamin' cheese! I like cheese! Last Edited By: TargetBoy Jun 13 10 7:03 AM. Edited 2 times.
Damien the Bloodfeaster		#51	[-]
Posts: 12033 Aug 22 10 5:59 AM Vampire Scion Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Blod--you need to level your PC! You should have 36,675 xp currently, including 4,133 from 7/22 (remaining demon monkey temple), 1,440 from 8/2 (metal spider battle), and 1,600 xp fom 8/16 (allosaurus and pirate battle at Farshore). You need 36,000 for level 9, so you went up one!!
TargetBoy	9th Level Adds	#52	[-]
Posts: 203 Aug 22 10 6:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Lvl 9 - take Ftr 3 +6 HP +2 CON = 69 total +1 REF save +1 WIL save +1 BAB (+9/+4 total) feat: Sharp-Shooting (Targets only receive +2 bonus for cover rather than the normal +4) skill points: +1 Climb, +1 Jump, +2 Swim "It'll take more than being tied to a lit keg of explosives and tossed into a pit of acid filled with mutant, acid-resistant flying piranhas equipped with flame-throwers and battle axes while venomous, mechanical, missile-launching morris dancers armed with liquid nitrogen harpoon guns riding giant rabid killer bees with side-mounted death rays to kill Othar Tryggvassen!"
TargetBoy		#53	[-]
Posts: 203 Apr 9 11 5:46 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	proposed Lvl 10 - take Ftr 4 +6 HP +2 CON = 77 total +1 FORT save +1 BAB (+10/+5 total) feat: Power Attack (subtract to hit, add to damage, up to BAB, double damage if 2-H wpn) skill points: +1 Climb, +1 Handle Animal, +1 Intimidate, +1 Jump okay? "Alvays remember: any plan where you lose you hat iz a BAD PLAN."
leadjunkie		#54	[-]
Posts: 3705 Apr 10 11 1:14 PM Necromancer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't know about Power Attack? With your build as an archer, I would take a feat that contibues that build or take a feat that gives you a defensive buff. Power Attack becomes decreasingly useful as our levels rise. Higher ACs preclude using the feat unless you are just lucky. Games I am... Judging - Kingmaker: Adventure Path PFRPG Playing - Tom Crone's, Order of the Rusty Dagger (home brew), PFRPG; Stan Shinn's, Redmark Campaign in the Barrow Maze, S&W White Box; Ken Mezger's, Myth II (home brew), PFRPG "Virtual" Type I Demon ('cuz Yuku's lame)
TargetBoy		#55	[-]
Posts: 203 Apr 10 11 6:25 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Good point. Iron Will is attractive after the last fight, but I'm restricted to a fighter bonus feat this level, and that isn't one of them. Weapon Specialization is looking better with it's +2 damage; I'll go with that one (on longbow, of course.) Hy vants a sammich!
kenmckinney		#56	[-]
Posts: 3010 Apr 10 11 6:33 PM Necromancer Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'll let you take Iron Will if you prefer. Ken
TargetBoy		#57	[-]
Posts: 203 Apr 10 11 6:46 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	No, I think Weapon Specialization is fine. Although the spreadsheet I use seems to think it's only good for point blank range. I see no mention of that anywhere else. If WS is only good within 30 feet, I might reconsider. Hy vants a sammich!
Damien the Bloodfeaster		#58	[-]
Posts: 12033 Apr 10 11 8:30 PM Vampire Scion Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	An alternative is Improved Rapid Shot in Complete Warrior, which lets you use Rapid Shot without the -2 penalty. You meet the prerequisites, and it does qualify as a fighter bonus feat. It's basically giving you +2 on all your ranged attacks whenever you make a full attack. You should definitely look to your mobility options as well, since being able to get to where you're going more quickly is always very useful. Unfortunately there's not too much you can do with skills and Fighter feats. You could take the Quick Swimmer skill trick (costs 2 skill points; usable 1/encounter or 1/minute if not in battle; if you succeed at a Swim check to move at least 10 feet, you can move an additional 10 feet for free). I think after all the practice you've recently had, learning a trick to get a burst of speed is not unreasonable! Hopefully a set of magical boots will help you as well. Edit #2: I see you have Improved Rapid Shot already! So much for that idea. In that case I'd strongly consider Ken's suggestion for Iron Will. Will saves are the achilles heel of fighter types, as you personally experienced in our last fight. But Weapon Specialization is also an excellent choice. Last Edited By: Damien the Bloodfeaster Apr 10 11 8:52 PM. Edited 2 times.
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Blodwyn Alnwick - Male Human Rgr 4 / Ftr 4 / OBI 2 (Savage Tide)