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Posts: 195 (03/05/08 10:31:54) Ghast Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I looked back through the threads here and couldn't find what I need. I know it has been brought up before but what is up with the preist's ring in the upper temple? Anyone have any real info on it? I plan on running said enconter as it is written but really don't want to spend an hour arguing rules with our groups accountant/rules lawyer. I know what the judge says goes, blah, blah...wish it was that easy sometimes!
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Posts: 3057 (03/05/08 10:55:36) Pimp of the Planes Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The problem that you will find repeatedly in RARE is that the encounters are not really created for 3.5e. This comes up in encounter descriptions like Scramge. I am sure that it will come up in magic items as well. You can handle it two ways: (1) dumb the items down so that it conforms to 3.5e rules (in which case the encounter will not occur as it was intended), or (2) amp up the value of the item so that it does occur as intended. I have a rules lawyer in my gaming group and he loves to go down to the last detail on rules. When I see that the module intended the encounter to work a certain way, then I give the required powers/abilities/etc. to the encounter works as written. If an items then becomes too powerful to give to the PCs, then I have it blow up or disintegrate, and then replace it with an item that is equivalent in gp value without being powered up. It is funny, but I have the feeling that this mod was not written by rules lawyers, which can cause confusion for the DM at times. You will just have to analyze these types of encounters and come up with the appropriate rationale for it to happen as written, not as adjudicated. "...In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "
Xiltyn the Lord of Death		#2	[-]
Posts: 191 (03/05/08 10:57:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I changed the ring to a ring of telekinesis since that fit the bill just nicely. Never got to use it though.
Diabolus		#3	[-]
Posts: 793 (03/05/08 13:33:13) Vampire Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I completely changing the Scramge encounter to a bunch of Rakashas that are in the Tome of Battle as I expect the bellyaching about the encounter as written would be legendary. "What do you mean we killed our halfling wizardess? That doesn't make any sense! We didn't kill her and this is retarded!" I'm pretty sure I'm changing the Upper Temple encounter as well because I don't like that whole "I teleport you into the lava" thing. I can certainly keep it deadly and do it within the 3.5 rules. Maybe have have the Type I(s) grapple characters and try to carry them there? Or casting Baleful Transposition on a character to switcharoo them with a Vrock flying over the lava. Same evilness, less oddball items that cause eye-rolling.
Evilopolous		#4	[-]
Posts: 32 (03/05/08 14:29:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey, how much is a Ring of Teleport Other worth?
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Posts: 3068 (03/05/08 20:31:58) Pimp of the Planes Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I would ballpark it in the 100k range. "...In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "
Frost		#6	[-]
Posts: 2691 (03/11/08 09:16:31) Lich Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You can a write up for Teleport Other spell in Necro's own Eldritch Sorcery. The Teleport Other spell has a range of 30 ft (it's not a touch attack). As another alternative, check out the Dimensional Hop spell from the Player's Handbook 2 (although it does not teleport targets nearly as far). Frost Offical Killer DM #0076 Praise not the day until evening has come; a women until she is burnt; a sword until it is tried; a maiden until she is married; ice until it has been crossed; beer until it has been drunk. - Viking proverb Dungeon Gear - Gamer Apparel The Dungeoneering Dad - A father on gaming and life Flickr Photos from Frost
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Posts: 3090 (03/11/08 19:40:14) Pimp of the Planes Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ugh! I wish that the spells' sources would be sited. "...In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "
Seppuku Squirrels		#8	[-]
Posts: 2754 (03/12/08 06:25:08) Undead Swarm Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'll have to look at that Dimensional Hop spell. My players are 1 session away from being here so this is a good heads up to the problems soon to be at hand.
Diabolus		#9	[-]
Posts: 803 (03/12/08 07:10:42) Vampire Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm thinking a Ring of Spell Storing with Baleful Transposition. Totally within the "WotC Official rules" my players demand, gives some useful loot without something so ubar as a Ring of Teleport Other (or as suggested, Telekinesis) and requires me to come up with targets for the switcharoo (again, Vrocks, Spectres, summoned critters can easily fly over the lava for that purpose, so no one can cry foul about being sent swimming in the magma)
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Posts: 3096 (03/12/08 13:49:26) Pimp of the Planes Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Make sure that you dole out enough rings to execute the switches efficiently! BTW, this spell interpretation runs throughout the mod. So be prepared to deal with it repeatedly. "...In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "
Frost		#11	[-]
Posts: 2692 (03/12/08 20:00:11) Lich Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well, I think this is simply a bad slip-up. I think the "Teleport other" ring is a hold over from 1e... but, yeah, it would have been nice for clarification, especially in RARE. Frost Offical Killer DM #0076 Praise not the day until evening has come; a women until she is burnt; a sword until it is tried; a maiden until she is married; ice until it has been crossed; beer until it has been drunk. - Viking proverb Dungeon Gear - Gamer Apparel The Dungeoneering Dad - A father on gaming and life Flickr Photos from Frost
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Posts: 3104 (03/13/08 13:34:50) Pimp of the Planes Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I see it being used in the final battle to transpose PCs from the "ground" to the Abyss, where the automatically die. "...In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "
Evilopolous		#13	[-]
Posts: 37 (04/02/08 16:58:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Heh, I'm just using the damn ring as is. I like the fact that there are items with cool powers that aren't found in the Core books, especially throwbacks to ol' 1st edition (like the "Fool's Gold" spell). My campaign is only using Core books, but I already informed them from the beginning that there were some items/monsters that were module specific. If they don't like the ring...tough. But I don't think that'll be the case. As soon as they see what it can do, they'll get greedy and want it for themselves! Good luck to them getting it, though...

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