Treebore wrote:

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I know what a business is, Clark, I've ran one. Successfully too. To the point where my kids already have a very nice inheritance to look forward to. Just from running that business 8 years. To be even more clear, the hard assets my wife and I have are valued at over 2 million. Assets we obtained due to our business acumen.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Treebore) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184640 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:22:45 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184600/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184600 feeds@yuku.com (Snoring Rock) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184600 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:08:16 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184593/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184593 kenmckinney wrote:

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Hey,

It's clear to me that NG has been run like a business. I think Tree is off base stating otherwise. Let's not blame Clark for problems caused by other people.

So, let's hear about plans with Pathfinder. Also, what is the state of the writeup Melan did for Tegel Manor? It really isn't fair to him to have this thing just disappear. I hope that either
... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Orcus) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184593 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:45:10 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184592/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184592 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Orcus) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184592 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:42:35 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184590/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184590
It's clear to me that NG has been run like a business. I think Tree is off base stating otherwise. Let's not blame Clark for problems caused by other people.

So, let's hear about plans with Pathfinder. Also, what is the state of the writeup Melan did for Tegel Manor? It really isn't fair to him to have this thing just disappear. I hope that either

1) NG/Paizo still have hope of doing something with this work in the future

or
... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (kenmckinney) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184590 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:32:32 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184589/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184589 Treebore wrote:

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I know what a business is, Clark, I've ran one. Successfully too. To the point where my kids already have a very nice inheritance to look forward to. Just from running that business 8 years. To be even more clear, the hard assets my wife and I have are valued at over 2 million. Assets we obtained due to our business acumen.

So like Dark Mistress points out, you have never ran Necromancer Games... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Orcus) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184589 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:07:48 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184586/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184586
Q ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Q1000) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184586 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:28:56 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184584/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184584
There is this little town on the coast of map #5 in the Wilderlands Boxed Set called Kegel. You could design and publish a haunted house near that coastal town. There could be pirates and werewolves and maybe a cowardly paladin who wants to sell the place cheap. I... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Snoring Rock) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184584 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:31:14 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184560/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184560 DaveMage wrote:

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The Wilderlands Box Set, in my opinion, is one of those special products that is easily in the top 10 D&D releases in the history of the game....the gaming world is much, MUCH richer for that product.

Treebore wrote:

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As for Necro's current "dilemma", this has happened primarily for one reason. Clark and Bill have never been running it as a business from day one. Its more of a glorified hobby endeavor for them. If they were like Goodman, where it is a business to them, one they want to make... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Treebore) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184559 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:55:26 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184558/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184558 Dark Mistress wrote:

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Well Big Daddy when people say you guys don't run it like a business. i think what they mean is that the bottomline is not your main objective. You guys want to make the best products you can and sales is secondary as long as it doesn't cost you guys money.

Most "business" care about profit, first, second and last. By what you have said before that doesn't seem to be the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (DaveMage) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184558 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:49:11 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184554/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184554
Most "business" care about profit, first, second and last. By what you have said before that doesn't seem to be the case. Hence why I think people say that. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dark Mistress) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184554 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:02:20 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184553/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184553

Treebore wrote:

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As for Necro's current "dilemma", this has happened primarily for one reason. Clark and Bill have never been running it as a business from day one. Its more of a glorified hobby endeavor for them. If they were like Goodman, where it is a business to them, one they want to make into a success, and had their own publishing avenues set up like Goodman and other... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Orcus) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184553 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:58:32 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/184551/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html#reply-184551 feeds@yuku.com (Orcus) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/sreply/184551 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:50:44 GMT http://necromancergames.yuku.com/topic/10808/t/Necro-Update-4E-print-not-looking-good-but-still-possible.html
I know its been a long time between updates for a lot of reasons and that can be frustrating. Sorry for that.

I'm still hopeful to do Pathfinder print products and perhaps a key 4E print product or two (a Tome 4E perhaps), but abiliity to product the 4E print stuff is proving to be difficult. Retailers are less than excited about 4E supplemental material. Distributors even less so. Print partners still less excited.

All you know my desire to... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Orcus) http://necromancergames.yuku.com/topic/10808 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:02:59 GMT