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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: TLG lost the CZ license  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Ah, so Castle Greyhawk will be lost to the world. Again. Perfect. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: TLG lost the CZ license  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with you 100% there, Treebore. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: TLG lost the CZ license  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Geleg wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  the problem is that there are so many different perspectives from which to view the &#39;proper&#39; way in which CZ should be produced.
  <br>
</blockquote>To me the one with the &quot;right&quot; perspective was Gary. His was that TLG should do it, and that Jeff T. should co-write, and presumably
write, the project. Anything else is not the &quot;right&quot; perspective. IMO.
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: TLG lost the CZ license  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m glad TLG will be fine. Great stuff there in the Erde/Aerde, Haunted Highlands, Siege, etc. But Steve himself said in the last blog (or a post - I
forget which) that it&#39;s been a tough couple of months - that&#39;s what I was referring to. But you&#39;re right that I shouldn&#39;t be pronouncing on
things concerning which I have no real info. Huzzah to the Trolls! ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Geleg)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">TheRavyn wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Personally, I would be most pleased with a 4E or 1E/OSRIC CZ.
  <br>
  <br>
  Which means neither will ever happen...<img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" alt="image">
  <br>
</blockquote>*chuckles* Well sure, if your going to disregard an authors wishes, might as well go for broke.
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: TLG lost the CZ license  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Personally, I would be most pleased with a 4E or 1E/OSRIC CZ.
<br>
<br>
Which means neither will ever happen...<img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" alt="image">
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Geleg wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  I can&#39;t say I&#39;m surprised by this, but I will say I&#39;m saddened. I liked the UW box, and Jeff T. seemed like an awesome acolyte for Gygax&#39;s
  work. Plus the Trolls also seem to be standup guys, and I bet it&#39;s gonna hurt them to lose CZ.
  <br>
</blockquote>Actually no. Its really not going to have much of an impact. Just gives us the resources to free up a stack of other projects waiting in the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">gondolin wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
   but for Pete&#39;s sake,
  <br>
</blockquote>Why is it always for my sake? *ducks and runs off*
<br>
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			<description><![CDATA[ the problem is that there are so many different perspectives from which to view the &#39;proper&#39; way in which CZ should be produced. I agree with Jeff B
and many of the Grognerds that in terms of style and &#39;fit&#39;, some old-school system (C&amp;C, OSRIC/1e/etc) would be best. But from a financial
perspective, it would be hard to fault the estate for going with something that would undoubtedly reach a broader audience (4e). For this reason I don&#39;t
share the outrage voiced by many... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ As much as I like 4E, using 4E -despite the grognErd rage that would result- is not a good idea-def needs to be C&amp;C, OSRIC/1E/OD&amp;D/S&amp;W- that type
of thing
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Good old nerd rage.
<br>
<br>
No need for it.
<br>
<br>
After all, they gotta support the current system of D&amp;D right? 4e? Right? <img height="15" src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif" width="50" alt="image">

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Geleg wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  I can&#39;t say I&#39;m surprised by this, but I will say I&#39;m saddened. I liked the UW box, and Jeff T. seemed like an awesome acolyte for Gygax&#39;s
  work. Plus the Trolls also seem to be standup guys, and I bet it&#39;s gonna hurt them to lose CZ.
  <br>
  <br>
  Gygax games has a website now, complete with forums: <a title="" target="_blank" href="http://www.gygax-games.com/">gygax games</a>. Strangely,... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I can&#39;t say I&#39;m surprised by this, but I will say I&#39;m saddened. I liked the UW box, and Jeff T. seemed like an awesome acolyte for Gygax&#39;s
work. Plus the Trolls also seem to be standup guys, and I bet it&#39;s gonna hurt them to lose CZ.
<br>
<br>
Gygax games has a website now, complete with forums: <a title="" target="_blank" href="http://www.gygax-games.com/">gygax games</a>. Strangely, maddeningly, or
wisely (take your pick),  they have made exactly no announcements... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Sorry, not sure what the deal is with the link- here is the relevant info
<br>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">TROLL LORD GAMES wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Gygax Games has withdrawn all licenses from Troll Lord Games. This includes Gygaxian Fantasy Worlds, Gord the Rogue, King of England King of France, C&amp;C
  Adventures as well as Castle Zagyg. This is a note from Gail:
  <br>
  <br>
  <em>&quot;A fond farewell from Gail Gygax:
  <br>
  <br>
  I want to thank all at Troll... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Why am I not surprised?  I don&#39;t blame anyone for this, but for Pete&#39;s sake, we have been waiting for this thing since 1984!!!!!  Yes you heard me
1984.  I am sick an tired of this........
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">varianor wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Link is broken?
</blockquote>
<br>
What he said.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Link is broken? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Saw that coming. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Curious, but mostly irrelevant since Gary&#39;s untimely passing...<img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif" alt="image">
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Sad indeed - but not unexpected at this point. ]]></description>

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dadgummit...I knew it
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<br>
<br>
Edit-wrong forum, sorry
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