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        <![CDATA[ Don&#39;t know if everyone has heard the news that Jeff Talanian, who co-authored Castle Zagyg: the Upper Works with
Gary Gygax, has been dropped from the project by Gygax Games (successors to Trigee Games). You can read about it on this thread: TLG
thread. Given the wild speculation that such announcements can provoke, I will be circumspect and, therefore, won&#39;t say much more than the following.
Jeff Talanian seems like a really good guy, and his work on Castle Zagyg (nee Greyhawk) was... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: the curse on Castle Greyhawk continues ...  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ *chuckles* Don&#39;t care for the OD&amp;D basic design layout honestly. Haven&#39;t seen the 4e design.
<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll take substance over glitter any day. I&#39;m not really looking at the interior design when I buy a book. ^_^
<br>
<br>
But, despite layout, C&amp;C still continues to be one of the top selling OGL games out there, possibly the top selling OGL game out there. So I guess fancy
borders don&#39;t matter all that much. ^_^
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">gideon thorne wrote:</strong>
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  The layout design is a conscious design decision. The idea was for functional and readable with efficient use of space. Fancy headers and graphics were not
  desired.
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</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Not saying that &quot;fancy&quot; *is* desired Peter-and by all means it&#39;s y&#39;alls decision to make but I&#39;ll offer up 2 examples (one new, one old)
of functional and readable with efficient use of space... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The layout design is a conscious design decision. The idea was for functional and readable with efficient use of space. Fancy headers and graphics were not
desired.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<link>http://necromancergames.yuku.com/reply/171100/t/the-curse-on-Castle-Greyhawk-continues-.html#reply-171100</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ <p>I don&#39;t know Gail&#39;s motivations obviously, but as a consumer, TLG is pretty frustrating. Now, the PEOPLE behind TLG are awesome, every single one of
them, but everything gets strung along for ages..whether it&#39;s the CKG or CZ, the layout is...to put it politely, not so great (Yggsburgh e.g.) there are
tons of errors/editing issues, and while Peter&#39;s art is good (very good in many cases), the books are just physically bland (IMO, of course). I&#39;m not
sure why, but I&#39;ve... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: the curse on Castle Greyhawk continues ...  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Maybe Mongoose whispered in her ear that their distribution levels are significantly larger than the Trolls...
<br>
<br>
Who knows? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">JeffB wrote:</strong>
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  <p>No more speculation- TLG lost the license
  <br>
  <br>
  <a target="_blank" href="http://trolldens.blogspot.com/2008/10/riding-line.html"></a><a href="http://trolldens.blogspot.com/2008/10/riding-line.html"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://trolldens.blogspot.../2008/10/riding-line.html">http://trolldens.blogspot.../2008/10/riding-line.html</a></p>
</blockquote>Well, now.
<br>
<br>
Tough to say how this will... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:49:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Dark Mistress wrote:</strong>
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  curious how this will play out with them now doing their own stuff. Wonder if they will try and get a print partner for it.
</blockquote>I am guessing they will do everything via the Flaming Cobra imprint of Mongoose.
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ curious how this will play out with them now doing their own stuff. Wonder if they will try and get a print partner for it. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>No more speculation- TLG lost the license
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://trolldens.blogspot.com/2008/10/riding-line.html"></a><a href="http://trolldens.blogspot.com/2008/10/riding-line.html">http://trolldens.blogspot.../2008/10/riding-line.html</a></p> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Usually Gideon chimes in long before now on such gloomy speculation - that in itself is...disquieting.
<br>
<br>
Maybe he&#39;s just too busy drawing up those maps for level 9 right now? (crosses fingers) <img height="15" src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif" width="15" alt="image">

<p><br></p> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:12:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I confess that there&#39;s a lot of room for speculation. I have my own guesses/fears about why it&#39;s taking so long for the UW to hit the distribution
channels. But they&#39;re pretty far out there, so I won&#39;t give them an internet afterlife. I am forcing myself to wait and see what Steve has to say
(can&#39;t say I&#39;m happy about the wait, but I have no say in the matter).
<br>
<br>
As for the waiting to sell out before announcing, don&#39;t you think they would have pushed to get... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ You&#39;re probably right, Ravyn.
<br>
<br>
I&#39;m getting the upper works anyway since I view it as Gary&#39;s last D&amp;D product. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Geleg wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  As for news about the subsequent installments, everyone seems to be waiting for Stephen Chenault (head troll) to make an announcement, which he will do when
  the time is ripe, right or whatever.
  <br>
</blockquote>I imagine they&#39;re waiting for Upper Works to sell out before announcing that there will be no more CZ product forthcoming. Smart business
sense, but not so nice community-wise. This is entirely... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, I&#39;ll probably end up getting it from FRP or stiggybaby, but I don&#39;t like to order from either site until it&#39;s in stock. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Its still on preorder <a title="here." target="_blank" href="http://www.frpgames.com/new/cart.php?m=product_detail&amp;p=45665">here.</a> They have always been
extremely reliable, though.
<br>
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ If anyone sees it in a location other than the Trolls website, please post! ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:31:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Yeah..seems to be some big news looming in the distance regarding CZ. I&#39;ll be one pi$$ed off SOB, if GG pulls the rug out from underneath The Trolls&#39;
feet
<br>
<br>
I need to get me a copy of the UW ordered, like yesterday. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:14:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ my understanding (from afar, mostly by reading TLG fora) is that the Trolls have shipped all the preorders and the direct orders, and that the UW box is only
just now making its way into the retail chain.
<br>
<br>
As for news about the subsequent installments, everyone seems to be waiting for Stephen Chenault (head troll) to make an announcement, which he will do when
the time is ripe, right or whatever.
<br>
<br>
but Gideon probably has better info ... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:34:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I just received CZ - UW from the Trolls. (Even though the website says it is sold out last I checked. Seems to be shipping upon order.) But there is a part of
me that is just sad. CZ will never really be seen. When Gygax passed, and now with the change via Gygax Games, I don&#39;t think we&#39;ll ever really see the
dungeon. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Any updates on this yet?
<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve been damn near sick to my stomach since reading this a few weeks back on the TLG forums.
<br>
<br>
Can you still order (and more importantly receive) CZ-UW from the Trolls? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Don&#39;t know if everyone has heard the news that Jeff Talanian, who co-authored <span style="font-style: italic;">Castle Zagyg: the Upper Works</span> with
Gary Gygax, has been dropped from the project by Gygax Games (successors to Trigee Games). You can read about it on this thread: <a target="_blank" title="" href="http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?mforum=trolllordgames&amp;t=6248&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;start=0&amp;mforum=trolllordgames">TLG
thread</a>. Given the... ]]></description>

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